MATH STRIKES AGAIN
At the ISSEI conference on language and the scientific imagination I came very close to figuring out what the meaning of life is. I had been happily anticipating a theory panel and especially two of the talks in it: one about poetic language in Badiou and the other on the nature of mathematical language in Claude Chevalley.
A counter question was posed by the one who delivered the long talk/translation: “but what do you need semantics for, when you deal with pure form?” Right on, I thought, though I couldn’t help also thinking that indeed we can’t use pure formalism for anything whatsoever if we want to live it, or live with it. (We need hermeneutics, stories, just like the ones I’m delivering now, for all to interpret, dismiss, laugh at, or curse, if one fancied it. So, I’m not even sure that thinking of pure form is or can remain an act of the imagination – assuming that imagination can bypass semantics.) In response to the question, the mathematician got up, gave the Chevalley guy his card, and said: “send me your paper, and we’ll talk”. But before the other one had a chance to tell him: "there is no paper," the mathematician was gone. We all had our thoughts. Mine were these: “compared to these guys, I’m hardly the most eccentric, or mad, or interested in abstractions merely for the sake for confusing others.”
The moral: I hate moral philosophy.
The lesson: formally, we can still say whatever crosses our minds (the interesting way: regardless of consequences; the economist way: think of cost/benefit before you open your mouth)
The teaching: go on counting – not what we get out of it, but what we put into it.
The lesson: formally, we can still say whatever crosses our minds (the interesting way: regardless of consequences; the economist way: think of cost/benefit before you open your mouth)
The teaching: go on counting – not what we get out of it, but what we put into it.
A quote springs to mind:
"Mathematicians are like lovers. Grant a mathematician the least principle, and he will draw from it a consequence which you must also grant him, and from this consequence another.
---Bernard Le Bovier Fontelle"
---Bernard Le Bovier Fontelle"


Comments
Judging accordingly to what your mathematician did/said, he must have been an arrogant SOB pushing 50, proudly wearing a colorful tie and some corny glasses. I still have more than ten years to go before getting to that level :)
But coming back to your question, I guess it is equivalent to the following one: is sex about reproduction or pleasure?
I would say that without semantics, mathematics would be just a shitty way of waisting time trying to prove the existence of God :)
Claude Chevalley are o teorema importanta despre grupurile de transformari. Era o teorie dezvoltata de Sophus Lie la finele veacului XIX, si continuata de Elie Cartan (colegul si amicul lui Titeica, din pricina caruia a si vizitat Bucurestii in 1932). Teorema lui Chevalley are o demonstratie constructiva, destul de greu de imaginat. Intamplarea face sa fiu familiarizat cu ea, pentru ca e una dintre teoriile din geometrie unde am avut treaba o vreme.
Habar nu am ce e cu existentialismul. Grupurile Lie? Evident ca exista. :)
Cu prietenie,
Bogdan
Mathematics is the only good metaphysics. (William Thomson)
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On comment 1: math like sex is all about pleasure, of course. The reproduction part is a cultural lid on thinking.
On comment 2: I'm attracted to the idea of continuous symmetries as forms of motion, especially when graphically represented. In terms of permutation groups, it's interesting to think of the semantics of 'existential' possibility for totally interchangeable elements in a finite set.
On comment 3: Amen. (but we have to remember that amen is also a cultural construct)
Take 3 quarks daily and contemplate these two geeks for 5 minutes....
to be honest, I dislike quotes. I prefer looking people in the eye while pouring out my goddamn' dirrrrrty mind... :)